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 TheIsland
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  Posted 06/07/2006 10:09:09 AM
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Please discuss this episode here.

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  Posted 25/03/2007 07:45:32 AM
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Best flashback ever and probally my fav. episode or LTDA

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 Rainflower
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  Posted 02/06/2007 08:24:14 PM
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My thoughts from re-watch:

Nice of Oceanic to make sure there were several flash-lights available in the mid-section of the plane

They don`t want to bury people because they "won`t stay buried for very long", yet later they start their own burial ground...

Fineally Sayid wants to look for the power source.

Kate just keeps on volunteering to go on every mission, Jack even points it out how she always wants to hike into the jungle.

I take a lot of pleasure in knowing Shannon will end up dead soon

The spiritual renewal aspect of the Walkabout, getting to be one with the earth, is pretty much what he is doing on the island... And when fighting with the Walkabout guy Locke uses similar words as on the island "I`m supposed to do this" "this is my destiny" - and also the "you don`t know who you`re dealing with" sounded interesting.

Why does Smokey seem to tear down every tree in his path? Later on he seems to be able to move around trees quite fine.


 Penelope
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  Posted 10/06/2007 02:04:34 PM
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Thoughts on rewatch of this episode:

Vincent barking NONSTOP at the boar LOL

Charlie near death: Charlie is rescued from being trampled by the boar by Jack.

Nice to see Sayid realizing that Jack's on island priorities are not the best ones.

Locke -- he knows SOO much about these boar and their mode of attack. How is that? The flashback Locke went duck hunting, but that is about IT. Is this knowledge surfacing due to prior loops on being at the island perhaps??  It is interesting that right after the boar speech, we see him involved in some form of ARG roleplaying. Then we discover, he is just an employee at a boxcompany, in a cubicle. Seemingly, how does he have such intricate knowledge of animal world? These are questions I had forgotten about. And how he knows about boar markings -wtf?

Funny how Rain is reminded she is happy Shannon will die -- I am just reminded that I am sad she will die. Her character really grows and I miss her.

We get a reference to Charlie's grandfather when Charlie says his granddad taught him about fishing -- the D. Stratton guy


LOCKE :Interesting during his flashback how he knows how to be a leader in a military ARG…..no military experience, no avid hunting experience that we are privy to – yet he knows “that patience is the best quality of a leader” He discusses the Walkabout as his DESTINY. Whether he is aware of it or not, these were the stepping stones that bring him to the island.

Jack’s dad appears after he tells Rose they will be burning the Fuselage and Bernard is definitely dead. Rose says “they are probably thinking the same thing about us” then Christian is seen by the edge of the beach.
I find the last line before we see him interesting!!

I agree with Rain: “I’m supposed to do this!”  screams of Locke’s recent statements to Jack in the finale, and much of his season 3 mindset.

 Rainflower
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  Posted 11/06/2007 07:42:49 AM
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There is something mysterious about Locke`s past still. We see him hunting with his dad, and with that fake-cop at the commune later, and presumably reading up on military/outdoors stuff both for his roleplaying game and the walkabout trip... but he has a vast knowledge about stuff such as boar hunting (or is he just a happy "idiot" who has so much faith and is "rewarded" by the island that things works out the way he says?).
When he blew up the others sub, he said something like "for all you know I was a commander in the navy" (or something to that effect at least LOL) - could he have a military career we don`t know about?

It`s true, Pen - Shannon grew on me too in the last episodes before her death.

 Penelope
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  Posted 11/06/2007 07:54:39 AM
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Well rewatching the little fake military game scenes was interesting IMO - knowing what we now know about this man.

I'm not sure I buy he was in the military, but I think on a subconcious level, he had this knowledge of various abilities/facts which he did not really understand, or maybe even realize. Like the boar hunting and his keen abilities to throw knives. Whether this is due to time travel/looping, or just the sheer fact his destiny was to become the leader on that island, I do not know. But certainly, when you review all of his flashbacks, he has skills that were not developed in the past of Locke we have been shown thus far.

 Rainflower
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  Posted 11/06/2007 09:01:08 AM
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Locke`s past has always been full of surprises though - wheelchair, dad throwing him out of the window, the whole kidney thing, the drug commune - and we`re still missing some time periods aren`t we? So maybe not the military, but perhaps we will see something else that explain his knowledge.

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  Posted 11/06/2007 12:34:57 AM
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Penelope wrote :Locke -- he knows SOO much about these boar and their mode of attack. How is that? The flashback Locke went duck hunting, but that is about IT. Is this knowledge surfacing due to prior loops on being at the island perhaps??  It is interesting that right after the boar speech, we see him involved in some form of ARG roleplaying. Then we discover, he is just an employee at a boxcompany, in a cubicle. Seemingly, how does he have such intricate knowledge of animal world? These are questions I had forgotten about. And how he knows about boar markings -wtf?



I think that Locke just threw himself into preparing for the Walkabout like he told the guy at the tour center.  While he may never have hunted that particular animal anyone with hunting experience would understand more about an animal's patterns and behaviors due to studying those they have hunted.  At least in my opinion they would.

In rewatch of this I'm struck by how much Boone wants to "help" but never actually does the helping (except for the things he points out that Shannon doesn't do) -- why is it so important to him that Jack talk to Rose rather than himself??

I didn't take notes on this one so may need to rewatch my rewatch for more thoughts.  

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 Penelope
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  Posted 11/06/2007 12:42:00 AM
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That is certainly possible Lisa. I am sure he read up on his intended "walkabout."

But I ask you all this -- have you ever tracked an animal before? Its really a skill, not one a mere book read would glean for him. I have played an interactive deer hunting game and I still am not the best tracker in the real world of deer. So it stands to reason either he had all this "experience" we never saw in flashbacks to date, OR he somehow has a natural ability to do so OR, "been there, done that" <--- the time loop theory.

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  Posted 11/06/2007 01:55:22 PM
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I assumed his other hunting gave him a basic knowledge of it, Pen.  But I could be wrong.

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 Penelope
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  Posted 11/06/2007 02:23:29 PM
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I dunno. LOL at this becoming a hunting thread. I thought he only hunted fowl with his dad. That type of tracking seems quite different because you are mainly relying on dogs to "push" the birds out into the air for shooting.

Boar, deer, polar bears -- scent markings, droppings, trampled leaves, nesting spots, hoove marks all fall into play. Of course maybe he did this type of hunting with Cooper, and we just were not shown it.

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  Posted 11/06/2007 04:54:54 PM
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For the record, I'm with Rain, and oh so ready for Shannon to go

As far as Locke's hunting skills, I always assumed he hunted for other animals with Cooper.  Who knows how much bonding is required to get someone to give up an organ for you, I'm guessing it's a good bit.

Locke was also in charge of going to town to get the guns at the commune.  We probably made the leap in logic that they were for defense due to illegal activities, but the group could have been hunting for sustenance as well.  Just my 2 cents

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  Posted 13/06/2007 05:21:04 PM
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It is also possible that Locke aquired a lot of those skills at the "drug commune" . Besides growing pot they also reminded me of survivalist

 WayOffCourse
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  Posted 13/06/2007 10:21:37 PM
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Kate in this episode says "I'm a vegetarian", yet we saw her in Tabula Rasa scarfing down eggs and (I believe) bacon.  Is she lying?  If so, why?  

This episode showed Jack's discomfort with any sort of ceremony or sentimentality--not wanting involvement with the memorial, nor wanting to deal with Rose's mental state, just her physical (reviving her in the Pilot)

Walkabout (according to Locke):  "A journey of spiritual renewal where one derives strength from the earth and becomes inseparable of it"  Is Jacob literally inseparable from the island?

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  Posted 13/06/2007 10:24:32 PM
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Sorry, three more:

When Rose speaks of Bernard she said something about "whenever we travel" as though they'd been together a long time.  In their epi, however, it seemed they hadn't actually been together very long.

Jack referred to medicine as the "family business".  Could there be more Doc Shepherds out there?

I thought Locke's look of surprise when Michael said "Good job" to him about killing the boar was very well played by T O'Q.  Like no one had ever said that to him before.  

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  Posted 18/06/2007 01:16:16 PM
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I kind of agree with Lisa's theory on Locke.  I always assumed that he had spent a lot of time researching and preparing for this trip.  He was so deperate in the walkabout tour office, like he really meant what he was saying about it being his destiny, etc.  It was rather sad.  I imagined he had put in a lot of preparation time and learned a good deal about hunting, probably practiced throwing knives, etc.  Penelope makes a good point, that learning the theory does not make you able to execute, but I am not sure it's a critical detail.  

I think we could be overthinking it (us, overthink Lost?  No way!)  When I originally watched this epi I felt the military ARG, walkabout, etc. was to show that Locke was a poser.  He was already recreating himself, at least in his own mind, and he more than anyone was using the crash as an opportunity to be somebody else.  I think that is the important message.

 Penelope
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  Posted 18/06/2007 01:30:04 PM
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That's a good point Super.
i remember originally thinking that we shouldn't trust Locke when I first saw this episode. And now, given where we are in the show - that seems a bit accurate. He IS reinventing himself and he is not afraid to hurt people who stand in the way....


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