I rewatched the finale again today and I thought there were many points worth rehashing during the summer hiatus. Here are my notes, please add and/or comment if you can!

Razinski—Kelvin’s former partner, presumed dead. Or can we be so sure?

Four toed statue--I still am clueless to what this may mean.

Penelope: is engaged to another man – do you think it is someone we know that may be on the island?? Or someone who is now dead on the island, such as Goodwin, Nathan, Ethan...

Quarantine sign: Eko sees this when looking down the hatch, where did it come from?

The sound in the finale – intentionally off kilter, or was this just ABC interference?

Why those four - Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Hurley? And why could hurley leave at the end?

Libby – we see her in Desmond's flashback and she is obviously wearing a wig- could she have been an other? This scene is immediately after the scene where Kate mentions their theatrical props. One theory I have is that she is Penelope’s sister – a sister Penelope is unaware of but was ordered by Charles Widmore, her father, to give the boat to Desmond so he would wind up at the island.

The plane and the button -- I understand Desmond caused the plane to crash, but I believe the plane was always meant to land at the island. With that in mind, then everyone on the plane was important to the island's experiments in some way. They are left with the survivors they have, and must make the best of it. Libby being on the plane also would make sense here -- because she may have been using the plane to get to the island, and is lucky she survived the crash caused by Desmond.

The ending - why doesn't Charlie tell Claire about the explosion?

Tom's (Zeke) beard: why was it important to Henry that he wore it?  And why wear it at all?  

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"Quarantine sign: Eko sees this when looking down the hatch, where did it come from?" --- was the door to the hatch, was it not? With "Quarantine" written on the inside of it.

ETA: Yeah... the Charlie thing... I don't understand why he hasn't told her. That actually was one thing that made me think they didn't die - if they did, you think he'd say something.  

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Why those four - Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Hurley? And why could hurley leave at the end?

i was wondering that too - why exactly hurley? if they knew from the start he could go back, why bring him? so he would take longer to get back to the rest of them, and letting the others "get away"?

and the trap thing - if jack and sayid had figured out they were being led into a trap, why would he keep walking - didn`t they think of the possibility the trap might not be at the camp? just another bad decision by jack, or was being caught a part of the plan?

I rewatched the ending again last night and I believe the Others intended for Hurley to make the journey ONLY so he could return to the camp, explain what had happened, and carry a warning that the Losties NOT ever attempt to go there and try to retrieve their friends.

I believe getting captured was suspected by Sayid (sorry, I belong to SMACKJACK elsewhere and cannot credit Jack for diddly poo) and thus a part of the bigger plan. True, a wrench was thrown to the plan because they did not end up at the camp. However, at the very end, before the bags are placed over their heads again, Jack gives Kate a look and a nod. She sorta nods back. Sawyer also gives them a look. There is definitely a plan. (that Sayid created, tee hee)

I agree they only brought Hurley there to send him back, but I was wondering why him, and not someone else. Or why they wouldn`t just say bring "kate, sawyer and jack" and 1 more person. Also if they brought them to a dock the losties hadn`t found yet, bringing him all the way there and then tell him to turn back and warn the rest never to come there seems a bit redundant. Wouldn`t it have been smarter to not let him see the place at all, and instead give him the message in the woods? Unless the Others for some reason WANTS the losties to come searching for them.

LOL at the "I belong to SMACKJACK elsewhere and cannot credit Jack for diddly poo)". Yeah, I feel too Sayid had a plan - they must have realized there was a big chance they wouldn`t be brought directly to the camp; or, Sayid must have realized lol. I noticed the nods and looks too. At least I hope there was a plan...

Maybe its as simple as this: If Hurley, a good friend to those three, says not to search for them, then the rest of the camp will go along with it. I think they knew who had the 'power' and credibility at the camp. I still am unsure why they did not take or want Sayid (because I find him capable of more than the three they kept).

I also watched the ending again to explore Charlie and Claire's conversation further. It is apparent Charlie knows something else that he is not sharing with her. And I don't just mean the possibility that Eko and Locke did not survive. Something else.

I read elsewhere a theory that Charlie lost time or his 'timeline' had been altered by the magnetic pulse.

At first I just thought Charlie didn`t remember what had happened, but I now agree with you, it does seem like he knows something that he is not sharing.

Yes, you may be right, that Hurley would have the authority to convince the rest to not go searching for them. I can`t understand how they didn`t want Sayid either. I mean, they take Jack, and not Sayid?!? LOL.

The "why send Hurley back" question... I forgot what other theories I had at the time, LOL. but...

The funky bird who only shows up in season finales squawked out his name. Maybe that ties into The Others decision somehow.

That funky bird apparently was an easter egg - a shout out to the Lost novels that nobody read. I have them, but have never read them (LOL) so I do not know anything more about the bird.

So I guess Desmond was right when he said to Locke that maybe the experiment was the other way around - that the pscyhological/observation experiment was actually being conducted on the guys filling out the notebooks and not on the people pressing the button? Since the tube just led to a meadow I mean...

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Rainflower wrote : So I guess Desmond was right when he said to Locke that maybe the experiment was the other way around - that the pscyhological/observation experiment was actually being conducted on the guys filling out the notebooks and not on the people pressing the button? Since the tube just led to a meadow I mean...

Yes I agree. and given what we know of DHARMA's meaning now, clearly they were being studied to see whether they would faithfully document the experiment and send the journal out to the tubes (which clearly nobody has read). Sort of a double-blind study going on there.

It would be worthwhile for the Losties to read those journals I bet, but on craphole, things like this never seem to happen.

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Penelope wrote : That funky bird apparently was an easter egg - a shout out to the Lost novels that nobody read. I have them, but have never read them (LOL) so I do not know anything more about the bird.

I read... damn what was it. Secret Identity... had to look it up, and yah, it was SO memorable. *eyeroll*

I don't remember a bird... the book sucked arse tho. It coulda been in there. No way I'm going back and looking for it tho

LOL Borky

Pen - yes, I wonder how long the experiment was conducted there. If someone actually sat down and read the notebooks, would they possibly see the note with Razinski killing himself (if that is actually what happened) ....

THINKING OF the Beard worn by Zeke/Tom:

I was just reminded of this: After Orientation aired, much speculation existed that the bearded guy who took Walt (Zeke/Tom) was Gerald DeGroot.

We have been trying to rationalize why the guy wore the beard - could this be why? To pose as DeGroot? And if so, why?

But he was also using a fake name - calling himself Zeke, and saying "thanks for telling them my real name, Bea" when she called him Tom. Why go throught the trouble with both fake name and the fake beard?

Time for fozzie simple theory LOL!  I just figured Charlie didn't say anyting because he couldn't hear anything. LOL

Let's see...

Zeke/Tom has the beard name as testament to the control and authority of Henry Gale or whoever you wish to call him. He seems to have a really wierd part in it all that no one really knows.

Charlie, well he's still not the nicest guy, I don't think he really cares to go back for Locke and Eko since he had problems with them both anyway. And you know Claire would send him off after they had just rekindled...

But I think the real significance, as was mentioned would have to be the faces between Kate, Jack, and Sawyer. I think Kate and Jack had some sort of plan or something going on. But it didnt appear to me as if Sawyer was in on it, it looked more like he was left in the dark and confused by tehir confident smirks. And maybe Sayid is involved as well.

Mark - It would make sense that Sawyer was in the dark. He seemed to be in the dark during most of the episode - Kate knew about Michael before it was revealed by Jack but he didn't. If there is a plan, Sayid has to be involved because they would have wanted to tell someone who is not there.

Oh and as for the monitoring station Penelope had - which Artic were they in, North Pole or Antartica? Any ideas?

It looked like daylight outside the station, didn`t it? Or am I remembering wrong?

Just thought if the plane crashed in September, it should still be winter time. And during the winter months it`s dark 24 hours a day at the North Pole.

Hey you guys/gals...

My two cents worth

I think our monitoring station is in Antartica (or nearby) and our island is still in the South Pacific.

But, the whole thing with noone being able to leave is weird. What if Michael "makes it" home? What does that mean? were all the other people (like Desmond seems to believe) prevented from leaving? Why let EVIL Michael leave?

ALSO, it REALLY looked like at least Kate & Jack had a plan - they were nodding signals back & forth. Maybe Sayid is a party to this plan. It sure seems likely to me. More unlikely that those people would be caught off guard.  

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