If you've read some of my ideas 'elsewhere' you know by now I am a firm believer in the Atlantis theory about the island.

There are theorists that opine limiting the geographical location of the Lost City strictly to the Atlantic Ocean fails to consider the state of the Ocean and our Continents during the time which Atlantis would have existed, which is nearly 10000 years ago.

From http://www.atlan.org/faq/#4:
But the fact is that what we call by the name of "Atlantic Ocean" is not the same as that of the ancients. Herodotus, Aristotle, Plato, Strabo, and several other ancient authors are very specific on the fact that the "Atlantic Ocean" — otherwise called "Ocean of the Atlanteans", "Outer Ocean", "Kronian Ocean", Mare Oceanum ("Ocean Sea") or Mare Magnum ("Great Sea") was indeed the whole of the "earth-encircling ocean". This Ocean surrounded the whole world then known, that of Eurasia and Africa. In other words, the Atlantic Ocean of the ancients was the World Ocean that is indeed coterminous and encircles the entire globe of the earth, and which we now arbitrarily divide into Pacific, Indian and Atlantic, despite the fact that all three are coterminous.
A quote from Aristotle, the great disciple of Plato, will show what we mean:
"Men have divided the inhabited earth into different islands and continents. But this is the result of their ignorance of the fact that the whole of it is an expanse surrounded on sides by the waters of the Atlantic Ocean". (De Mundo, III:18)
Herodotus is even more explicit on this. After affirming that "some say the [Atlantic] Ocean begins in the East", he adds:
"The sea frequented by the Greeks, that beyond the Pillars of Hercules, which is called the Atlantic or, also, the Erythraean (Indian Ocean) are all one and the same sea." (Hist. I:203)
Hence, we see that the Atlantic Ocean or, rather, Ocean of the Atlanteans, of the ancient Greeks of the time of Plato and Aristotle was not only the one we call by that name, but included the Indian Ocean and that portion of the Pacific Ocean along the eastern coast of Asia.


Furthermore, to only discuss Atlantis as a Lost City or Lost Island dismisses the most probable theory of its existence: that Atlantis is a lost continent that divided due to shifting of the Earth's crust and geologic events such as volcanic eruption and the Ice Age:

Atlantis was a continent. Its capital was called by the same name or by that of Poseidonis, and was located on an island next to its coast. After this continent sunk under the seas, only the peaks of its loftiest mountains remained above the water, forming what the ancients later knew as the Islands of the Blest, and which we know as those of Indonesia.

I do not think that this is Atlantis. It just doesn't explain anything else that is going on IMHO. And I really don't see the purpose in making that the case.

But I am pretty sure, as I have a pretty solid background in Greek mythology, Atlantis was supposed to be a Greek island which would be situated in the Mediterranean.

But if it was in the Pacific that still wouldn't make sense. The plane was traveling the opposite way from Indonesia and that side, it was traveling from Australia to LA. And global drifting and tectonic plates do not fill in the blanks, they would destroy or reraise a sunken island.

I am not saying it is entirely impossible, but nothing that has been shown would lead me to believe that.

Mark - what you have stated are the faults in my theory LOL! I think I am intrigued by the Atlantis theory more as an analogy then as the real deal. Sort of like this island is a Lost World from ours. One that cannot be found, unless you know how to find it.

Haha. OK.

I do think it is some sort of lost world if you will, somehow barred off from the rest of the world, but still allowing people to cross in every so often. When it all started and the forces behind it all are the serious questions. And the Purgatory theory has always intrigued me as well.  

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Mark - you should start a thread on the purgatory theory. I have never bought into it, but I would like to hear your ideas on it. I don't rule out anything because that is usually when I am wrong! LOL

Atlantis is actually a very interesting theory.  In fact there are a lot of Atlantis theories which place it all over the world. Antartica and off the coast of Mexico are two locations that have been brought forth as possible locations.  I don't think the location in the Rachel thread of the ARG, the island near Bermuda/Trinadad (depending on whose post you read) is close enough to the thoerized Mexico location, but possibly could be what the writers are hinting about.  I'm keeping an open mind on this, I don't think it has been discounted yet.

After giving thought to it though...still no! I don't want to see it as Atlantis. I decided, although not the perfect resource it helps, I would read through the wiki article.

The fact that Atlantis originated with Plato in Ancient Greece and continued to be a part of Greco-Mediterranean, even if that were taken as nonfiction, would place it in the Mediterranean, which is the main source of the legend.

Others, only in recent history, with no visible reasoning have placed it in very random other spots like the Caribbean, Indonesia, and Antarctica. And Francis Bacon, whom revived interest in a lost continent of Atlantis had the idea that it was off the western coast of America, possibly North or South. Only a few of these locations would of course work with a plane headed from Australia to LA, CA, USA.

But the fact that there is so little proof or reference at all to it being Atlantis has me believed against it, especially since Atlantis is too unrealistic to begin with. Some sort of lost island, undiscovered however so I wouldn't mind.

And I will start that purgatory thread, after I read a little bit for some additional background  

This is a very important trend in doctrine  
Atlantis was near island of pascua, in the south Pacific, for his nearness some civilizations like those of the Incas and island of pascua realized works that even now, have not explanation, like the case of the moais in island of pascua

sorry
I do not speak Inglish

saludos

Thats was very clear Sceleratus for someone who does not speak English.  Great 1st post, and thanks for the insight.

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sceleratus wrote : This is a very important trend in doctrine   Atlantis was near island of pascua, in the south Pacific, for his nearness some civilizations like those of the Incas and island of pascua realized works that even now, have not explanation, like the case of the moais in island of pascua

I knew it was near the Pacific!! Whoot!  

Sceleratus -- great to see you posting! I understood your message, so don't hesitate to post more!!

Actually, there are as many theories about where Atlantis actually is as there are about Lost, and some just as crazy.  For everyone who has come forward with the 'proof' that their theory is right, someone else has just as much 'proof' that they are wrong.  Until we see some tangible evidence; ie artifacts, etc, we will never know if it was an actual place or an allegory, meant only as a warning.